Are There Any Realsitic Answers For Taxation?
Posted by lobotero on 12 January 2009
Oh yeah…there is…but are they willing to do the right thing?
Taxes– Truth Not Spoken
During the last election the voter was bombarded endlessly with this tax scheme or that. They were hit with accusations of higher taxes and the promise of lower taxes. It became so confusing that I feel the people stopped listen and moved on to other promises and accusations.
I waited quietly for someone to explain to the people why this proposal would raise taxes or lower them…just saying so…does not make it so. You people do realize that without taxes their would be very little income for the country, right?
So Irene let us take a look at taxes and what is meant by promises and accusations.
Payroll tax is a “fine” imposed on those who organize employment.
Income tax fines people who engage in production or render services.
Sales tax penalizes people for purchasing goods.
Customs tariffs fine people for buying goods produced in other countries. To do this is economic aggression, and invites reprisals which endanger peaceful relations and are a prelude to war.
Excise duties increase the cost of certain products, reduce demand for such, and worsen unemployment, as do all taxes.
A tax is a compulsory payment to a government unrelated to any direct penalty, voluntary service, or debt. Some payments to governments have the form of a tax, as compulsory payments, but not the substance, since the payment is for a service or rent for the use of property. When an oil company pays a lease for offshore oil fields, for example, this is a rental charge for property owned by the government on behalf of the people, so it is not a tax in substance. Likewise, the collection of land rent by a community may be tax in form as a compulsory payment once the land is obtained, but not in substance, since the ownership of land is voluntary and the payment is a rent for land if one agrees it is properly owned by the community.
Taxes can be imposed on two basic types of items: property and transactions. Transaction taxes includes those on sales, value-added, income, gifts, and inheritance. The effect of imposing such arbitrary costs on transactions is to skew the prices of the items taxed, distorting the price signals of a market economy. Sales taxes make goods more expensive, labor taxes make labor more expensive, and taxes on profits make entrepreneurship and enterprise more expensive by reducing profits. Such taxes have the same effect as an increase in the cost of production due to more expensive inputs. Depending on the responsiveness of supply and demand to changes in price, transaction taxes are partly borne by workers as lower real wages, partly by enterprises as lower total profits, and partly by consumers as higher prices and a lower quantity of goods purchased. Gift taxes punish the free transfer of goods; inheritance taxes punish the preservation of family heritage and the ability to pass on an enterprise to one’s children.
Taxes on income and on sales have a similar effect in reducing output, employment, and income. Taxes on wages, such as income taxes, impose a “tax wedge” on labor, making it expensive to employers while reducing the net wages of workers. This, especially combined with minimum wages, creates unemployment by making the lowest-quality labor too expensive to hire. Taxes on sales also reduce income, since the purpose of production is consumption, and if goods are taxed, purchasing power is reduced. A “value added” tax is imposed at each stage of production; for example, when trees are cut down, when lumber is cut, when furniture is made, and when it is sold, each state gets taxed according to the increase in value from one stage to the next. The result is higher prices, lower output, and lower employment.
Thanks to Henry George there is an answer to the taxation question and the problem.
A tax on land values is of all taxes that which best fulfills every requirement of a perfect tax. As land cannot be hidden or carried off, a tax on land values can be assessed with more certainty and can be collected with greater ease and less expense than any other tax, while it does not in the slightest degree check production or lessen its incentive. It is, in fact, a tax only in form, being in nature a rent — a taking for the use of the community of a value that arises not from individual exertion but from the growth of the community. For it is not anything that the individual owner or user does that gives value to land. The value that he creates is a value that attaches to improvements. This, being the result of individual exertion, properly belongs to the individual, and cannot be taxed without lessening the incentive to production. But the value that attaches to land itself is a value arising from the growth of the community and increasing with social growth. It, therefore, properly belongs to the community, and can be taken to the last penny without in the slightest degree lessening the incentive to production.
There you go, Irene…the Land Value Tax(LVT) could be the answer to a whole plethora of questions…at least it should be considered and not dismissed handily.
Capt. A. said
“The ‘private sector’ of the economy is, in fact, the voluntary sector; and the ‘public sector’ is, in fact, the coercive sector.”
~ Henry Hazlitt
lobotero’s comment on 12 January 2009, adroitly points out the “reality” of the term “realistic” by continuing to impress with superficiality, the thought process of a well-trained Marxist.
The very idea that ANY form of taxation is “THEFT,” is never called into play, usurped by the never-ending piffle in trying to address truth. In other words, the “ends that are theft” are justified by the “means” if only a sufficiently soothing balm stultifies the masses into oblivious submission. (State propaganda) Marx turns with pleasure six-feet under.
There are no laws (actually, to be technically correct, decrees), which relieve the moral turpitude of “lawful theft.” Any such use of unscrupulous conduct willfully displays an inherent baseness as vile and pernicious as any that spew from the mouths of today’s politicians, et al. Politicians and bureaucrats are the “unproductive” that rely on the use of coercion and force, to live off of, and redistribute from the productive, the entrepreneurs and honest working class. (Excluding rent seekers and licker of nates) There is no such thing as an honest, truthful politician. To argue otherwise is patently obscene and obtuse. It is an engagement of the addlepated.
There is no such thing as a “good tax.” It would be like trying to justify “a good theft!” Since the world is filled with allegedly good people (politicians and bureaucrats) always trying to do “good”—with other peoples’ money, it is incumbent on the individual to seek measures to protect him or herself against the perfidious state. That’s one reason why tax havens exist. (Flag wavers and patriots, not wanted!)
Even my good friend, the late Frank Chodorov, tacitly agreeing with Henry George’s property taxation gambit, faced great difficulty in trying to surmount the “problem of theft.” Toward the last days of his life I often noted subtle recant with regard to any measure to justify exaction. Theft is theft—and that is the truth. It’s too bad we can’t pass sagacity along to the following generation. However as history seems to show, it probably wouldn’t make much difference. If robbing your neighbor at gunpoint and taking his property is considered (armed) theft, then merely replacing the interloper with one called the government, so as to act as your “gun,” and this justifies the moral correctness and legality of the act called theft, then mankind really has little chance for redemption at any level.
The governmental depredations of “inflation” (the hidden tax), despoiling of a nation’s monetary base (coin, currency) merely through “legality,” is again, an apparently accepted process. It would be rare if not impossible to point out any such events in history where the results of monetary despoilment (theft) and progressive taxation (theft) didn’t ultimately lead to a tragic end. America is going down the road to find out… Woe.
“Americans will not always get what they want but they will surely get exactly what they deserve.” ~ Gore Vidal
C’est la guerre,
Capt. A.
Principality of Monaco
lobotero said
Morning Capt. A it is always good for a opposition opinion.
Because the word “theft” is used does not make one a Marxist. IMO, taxation is a form of “theft”. The US, as well as the world is facing a terrible crisis and any thing that would help create demand should not be pushed aside. The money wasted in all the US bailouts has done nothing to help…all it is doing is helping banks with there liquidity problems. DEMAND is what is needed to help the country at this time.
Taxes are inevitable…if that is true why not make them more responsive to the publics need? If one tyax can replace several and lose nothing in the transition and gives the majority of the people more cash in hand, then the demand I seek could be found.
“The genius of our ruling class is that it has kept a majority of the people from ever questioning the inequity of a system where most people drudge along, paying heavy taxes for which they get nothing in return.” Gore Vidal